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Re: [trinity-users] Initializing vtty text size (was: TDE installed, LXDE not installed...)

From: Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@...>
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 15:43:22 +0100
On Monday 30 March 2015 15:16:35 Felix Miata wrote:
> Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-03-30 11:18 (UTC+0100):
> >> >> [1] included on installation cmdline: tasks="standard" vga=791
> >> >> video=1024x768@60
> >> >
> >> > The required resolution depends surely on the monitor one is using?
> >>
> >> Absolutely. The question is what's required for you, bigger text, bigger
> >> screen, bigger both? 1024x768 is a low res mode supported on some pretty
> >> big screens. Text 14pt & up is readily doable. Lower resolution still
> >> means bigger yet text. 80x25 on a TV screen can produce seriously large
> >> text.
> >
> > Yes, I know.  But it needs configuring.  It isn't like that by default.
> >
> > I thought 80x25 just alter4d the width of the columns.  This time it is I
> > who do not understand/know enough.
>
> I just booted the Ubuntu aka Debian Installer with the following added to
> the cmdline
>
> 	splash=0 vga=normal video=640x480
>
> The resulting vtty text is the same size as when booting DOS, 80 columns by
> 25 rows. On a 41.0 cm x 26.0 cm (19" diagonal) screen that results in text
> somewhere in the vicinity of 24pt. This to me sounds like it would be
> usable for you. If not, a bigger screen like 69.8 cm x 39.3 cm (31.5"
> diagonal) ought to get somewhere around 32pt-36pt.
>
> If those produce too big you could try
>
> 	splash=0 vga=785 video=800x600
>
> which would shrink text size down by around 1/3, giving about 100 columns
> wide by 37 rows tall.

Thanks, Felix.  And thanks for going to the trouble.  But as I said, I have no 
trouble with the installer.  The Debian Jessie installer has been well 
thought out in terms of disability and is great.  

Anything that can be installed at installation time is no trouble.  But sadly 
TDE can't be.  I either have to install without a DE and install one later, 
or install one of those offered.

It is the post installation tty that I can't see.  So I can't install, reboot, 
then install a TDE from the command line.  

So I install a DE at installation time, boot it up, launch its terminal 
emulator, configure said terminal emulator to be legible (by me) and install 
TDE.  It doesn't have to be LXDE that I install, but LXDE is the lightest on 
offer.

> I have a hard time imagining a terminal emulator doing better than either
> of these two simple to implement configurations.

For the record, a terminal emulator _can_, and _does_, do better.  Clarity 
matters too.  A lot.   And a terminal emulator, which is a GUI application, 
can produce larger text without so significantly reducing clarity.  

You get better clarity with 1280x1024 than with 640x480, and you can enlarge 
by increasing the number of pixels, not only by spreading the pixels thinner.  
In fact, in the ordinary way you have to do so in a GUI.  Think of TT fonts 
in a word processor.

Lisi