On Monday 06 April 2015 09:51:58 Thierry de Coulon wrote: > On Sunday 05 April 2015 22.52:45 andre_debian@... wrote: > > I installed "kvkbd-trinity", but no onscreen-keyboard, > > on my touchscreen computer with Jessie. > > I can open applications and close applications with fingers, > > but no onscreen-keyboard. > What onscreen keyboard did you install? I installed kvkdb from the > repositories Slavek indicated. The keyboard does not "pop up" by itself as > on Android (but then it does not pop up when I have a physical keyboard > either, as "onscreen" does). I put an icon in the Panel and "call" it when > needed. > I don't know how this would work with a lock screen however... > Hi Andre, > First, start kvkbd-trinity, then it will stay in the notification area. You > just have to click on it hen you need it. I am currently doing a similar > setup on my newly received Sagem Spiga mini laptop. It has a keyboard, but > the layout is hard to understand and very strange, so I will rely on the > touch screen kb. > I am almost sure that TDE doesn't support multi-touch features at this > moment, but it might be provided by Xorg, so I might be wrong on this one. > -Alexandre Hello, Thanks for your answers. "kvkbd-trinity" works if I launch it (icon), (the keyboard is not very "practical" and not easy to use...) With Windows-8, the onscreen-keyboard starts automatically when we need it. Maybe too with the Desktop KDE4 or Gnome... ? (I will try asap), and also testing the zoom with three fingers. Very difficult to have the perfection... :-) Andr� > I doubt tdm knows about 3 fingers and I also doubt it would be easy to > teach it. That's probably what KDE 4 devs meant when they justified the new > version because KDE 3 was impossible to make "touch friendly". > > It does't come from the computer, because everything > > works well with Windows-8. > It comes from the fact that, if you use Trinity, you're basically using > year 2000 software, and there were no tablets (at least running Linux) at > the time. > It's a little like criticising a 1970's car for not providing airbags... > I don't know how or when KDE4 / Gnome 3 / Unity will get "tablet ready", > but I must say I'm quite pleased with the fact that TDE "can be used" on a > tablet, although it was not written for one! > > Basically, what I always thought proves to be right: those that are > despreately trying to develop a user interface supposed to "scale" from a > Desktop to a Tablet will fail, because a good Table interface will always > feel clumsy on a big screen with a mouse (things too big, set up too > streamlined) and a Desktop interface is quite unusable on a Tablet (unless > you are fitted with stylus-like fingers, which is not my case). > So if you put a desktop system on a tablet, you should not expect the same > experience as Android. Apple is the only one to do it right: IOS is quite > different from the OS X desktop. A pity it's made by Apple and suffers from > Apple's policy. > Thierry