On Thursday 30 July 2015 09:32:48 Felix Miata wrote: > Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-07-30 08:58 (UTC+0100): > > Felix Miata wrote: > >> Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-07-29 23:22 (UTC+0100): > >> >Dan Youngquist wrote: > >> >> Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> >> > In the absence of kdesu, or tdesu, how do you run eg KWrite or > >> >> > Konqueror as root in 14 on Debian? Even gksu seems still to be > >> >> > missing this time. > >> >> > >> >> Main menu / System / SuperUser, you should have both kwrite and > >> >> konqueror. > >> > > >> > Unfortunately Konqueror and Konsole. :-( > >> > >> What's wrong with getting where you need to go via Konsole? > > > > I can't get there. I run Debian. > > I don't understand. I thought you were running Jessie. ;-) What does > running Debian have to do with whatever your objection with Konq and/or > Konsole is? Debian, by default, will not run a GUI as root. So if oyu try to run a GUI application from the root Konsole you get: root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# kwrite Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# > >> How often due you find it necesary to edit as root? Is there some > >> problem using a readily available but more generic editor instead of > >> KWrite for such tasks? > > > > Not often. But when I do I find KWrite much the best for me. I don't > > have ot run TDE. I could run KDE44 or Gnome or LXDE. I don't have ot > > run KWrite. In fact, at the moment I can't run KWrite as root, but I want > > to run KWrite. And yes, there is a problem - I can't see anything else as > > well. But even if there weren't, why shouldn't I try to run it just > > because I want to? > > I wasn't suggesting giving up your preferences, only offering workarounds > for the period until such time as your expectations can be met. I use nano. I just don't like it anyhting like as much. > > I shall continue to try to use those facilities of TDE that I have > > particularly valued over the years. If I can't, I can't. One day I may > > even be forced to choose between KDE4 and Windows. > > We don't want that, especially Win10, with its expanded intrusion on > privacy. ;-) > > > ... > > > >> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/tde14KonsoleSessionMenu.png > >> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/tde14KonsoleSessionMenu.png > >> > >> Are these Konsole session menu options missing on Jessie? MCEdit is how > >> most system configuration maintenance gets done on all my installations. > >> And of course, MC is one of the oldest and most feature packed file > >> managers available. http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/Paradigm/ > > > > Sorry, I can't see what you are getting at here. But no, Konsole doesn't > > offer me mc. Probably because I haven't got mc installed. > > Is the root shell option missing from your Konsole menu too? Of course not. > > I find it inexplicable that default installs cant be bothered to include > this unequaled tool. :-( Debian has decided not to allow GUI root log-ins. It is not a case of "not being bothered", and there is nothing wrong with Konsole (which is supplied by TDE, not Debian). mc is missing only because I have not got mc installed. You didn't ask about the rest of the menu. In R14 <tdesu konsole> doesn't work either, but is easier to work round. Lisi