On Thursday 20 August 2015 11:20:45 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 20 August 2015 15:55:37 Gene Heskett wrote: > > I can ping this server > > What server? You haven't named it. I can ping lots of servers, but > they are not all smtp serevers. Pop3 servers are not necessarily smtp > servers. Have you checked the name of the required smtp server? > > Is it not possible to ask them for full login info via say email? You > are managing to email us. I too hate waiting for machines, with > something plugged to my ear. > > You need (egg time): > Smtp server name (bear in mind that this may be different from the > pop3 server name) > port number > security info > password (which you hopefully have). > > Lisi I think, after another 45 minutes on hold, that I have it sorted, I can at least send myself a msg at the gheskett@... address. Its address is smtp.shentel.net, port 587, TLS. Very quick response now. Now it is time to ask kmail, in its next resurection, to marry the smtp account to the folder kmail is currently looking at, by allowing that choice to be set in the individual folders prefs. Historically, if 2 send accounts have been configured, it randomizes which one it uses, and the "sticky" checkboxes have been just decorators like a boar hog comes equipt with. So having 2 sending choices was far more trouble because the mailing list servers will not accept the alternate address or ID's. And the bounce may take 3+ days to come back! In the meantime the user, me, is fat dumb abd happy thinking the recipient did get the msg. Hell of a way to run a train. Thanks Lisi. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>