Am Samstag, 19. Dezember 2015 schrieb Gene Heskett: > On Saturday 19 December 2015 02:42:50 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > Hi Gene! > > > > Where's the problem of giving root a password? > > > > nik > > > The last time I did that, somewhere along about the time of fedora 2, it > destroyed sudo, and I then rebooted single and nuked it, expecting sudo > to come back, but it didn't so reinstall time. I was sick of being Red > Hat's lab rat always suffering from some redhat experiment you couldn't > get fixed, so I used my lappy to pull and burn the cd and bailed to > mandrake, then pclos for a while, but it wasn't at all compatible with > linuxcnc, so I finally went with wheezy for transparent compatibility. > In that regard it has been truly excellent since the latest LCNC is > wheezy based. > > Thank deity I had already setup a decent backup (amanda), so the > transistions between distro's, while not painless, has not cost me a lot > of data in the long view. > > However, since they want sudo to be used, leaving root passwordless, I > am not fussy as long as it works. But I am not going to set a root PW if > its going to screw up the rest of the stuff that expects sudo to work. Hi Gene! There are no side effects in setting a root password. In fact, there is already a root password, but it's useless for the user. If you want to try: $ sudo bash # cp /etc/shadow /root/ # passwd If you have sideffects using sudo, you can always do: $ su # cp /root/shadow /etc/ Nik > > > Am Samstag, 19. Dezember 2015 schrieb Gene Heskett: > > > On Saturday 19 December 2015 01:52:46 Michele Calgaro wrote: > > > > On 12/17/2015 03:06 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > Greetings; > > > > > > > > > > Out of curiosity, I tried to run ksysv from the tde menu. > > > > > Can't. If insists on a root pw that does not exist on this > > > > > debian wheezy install. A sudo -i in a konsole for me, and it > > > > > runs just fine. > > > > > > > > > > This really ought to be fixed. No biggie for me, but... > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > > > > > No issues here (Debian/Stretch) with ksysv. Just typed in the > > > > root password and it worked flawlessly. The fact that ksysv > > > > requires root password is not surprising since you are playing > > > > with the system config. Cheers > > > > Michele > > > > > > You missed the point, it demands a root pw, that on this wheezy > > > system, does not exist, so it cannot be launched from the menu entry > > > by any pw entered. The pw used for doing a sudo is not accepted. > > > That was my point. > > > > > > Don't put it in the menu's at all if the user cannot use his sudo to > > > get the root rights it needs. > > > > > > I am used to defeating petty attempts to mold linux networking to > > > someones idea of consistency, but which is an abject failure where > > > one's home network, all behind a good router, is all based on the > > > common to all machines /etc/hosts file, with a locally carved in > > > granite hostname per machine. Turning network-mangler loose in that > > > environment is a no networking disaster, so the first thing you have > > > to do on the install reboot, is sudo -i, make the entry's for that > > > machine > > > in /etc/network/interfaces, chmod +i that file, then nuke the link > > > and make a real /etc/resolv.conf, and chmod +i that. If udev hasn't > > > played with things and moved eth0 to something else, thats it. Your > > > networking Just Works(TM) Then at your leasure you can uninstall > > > network-mangler. No use of its burning cpu cycles trying to tear > > > down what you just made immutible. > > > > > > Network-mangler might be of use in the situation where the machine > > > is connected directly to the access modem. Thats for folks who do > > > not understand the need for an isolating, natting, 20 hungry > > > pit-bull guard dogs for a firewall, router. Without that, a windows > > > box is owned 30 seconds after the cat5 is plugged in. The linux box > > > is at risk but its lower. I haven't worried about that since I > > > discovered dd-wrt, which can be reflashed into the better routers. > > > To me, its a transparent gateway to the net. To the net, if no port > > > forwarding is being done, its a cable with an address with nothing > > > on the other end of it. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >--- To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > trinity-users-unsubscribe@... For > > > > additional commands, e-mail: > > > > trinity-users-help@... Read list messages > > > > on the web archive: > > > > http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to > > > > top-post: > > > > http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.