On Sunday 20 December 2015 17:32:41 E. Liddell wrote:
> > To that end, if the package
> > asks for a pw, and gets the 1st users pw as a response, it should be
> > happy and run. There is little or no difference between root and 1st
> > user as 1st user is generally the one who originally setup the system
> > and should know it well.
>
> Don't assume that all systems are single-user desktops.

And don't assume, as you clearly do, that the "first user" is the one who set 
up the system.  This can get very confusing where one is administering 
someone else's machine.  At least, I tend to end up very confused.

Just as you are used to Ubuntu-think, I am used to Debian think.  First user 
is just the user you set  up first - after root. ;-)

> TDE shouldn't allow behaviour that sudo doesn't (assuming that
> sudo is even present on the system--it's quite possible to use su
> only and never install sudo!), which seems to be what you're
> advocating here.  It does have to be able to be able to authenticate
> via sudo with user passwords if the system accepts that behaviour
> in other contexts.

The problem is that Gene's system is a mish-mash, with sudo a left-over from 
Ubuntu; and most of those of us who are using pure Debian don't want this 
behaviour.  Michele's suggested compromise, of being able to add an extra 
package if you want it, appears to be a good one.

Lisi