On Sunday 29 April 2018 14:14:25 dep wrote:
> to test some of the things offered here the last couple of days i just now
> tried on my testbed thinkpad laptop to upgrade from ubuntu-14.04 to 16.04
> by changinf all the references in sources.list from "trusty" to "xenial."
> then did an apt-get dist-upgrade.
>
> the result isn't pretty. in fact, it won't even boot, though it makes an
> heroic effort.
>
> i figured that inasmuch as i'm going to have to do something fairly drastic
> now anyway, i'd switch to a current debian with tde -- having extra
> desktops around is just annoying. but looking on the liveCDs page i see
> ubuntu and PCLOS and some others, but no debian.
>
> does anyone here know of current debian-tde live CDs anyplace?
>
> thanks!
>
> dep
>
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Slavek posted a page with live CDs and DVDs, but I don't recall a Debian live 
version with TDE. There is a Devuan and Q40S with TDE, and maybe some others, 
but they are tricky to get up and running. 

I install from Debian Jessie 8.8.0 live hybrid (with non-free network stuff & 
KDE desktop), then I add Trinity repositories later and install TDE. 

Some others recommend network installation, and skip KDE altogether, but you 
will have to get them to reveal their tricks. This is no doubt the preferred 
method, as you can skip over any KDE items that might affect how your system 
runs. 

In any case, Debian is a little tricky to get working due to how it handles 
sudo a little differently from Ubuntu. Basically, when I install Debian, I 
leave the root password blank on installation, and make my user password with 
sudo privileges like in Ubuntu. Later I change my sudoers file, and change 
the definitions for users and privileges. Otherwise, when you get Debian up 
and running, you will find that you cannot do anything with sudo privileges, 
even though you have entered the correct password again and again. In TDE, 
you want to be sure you install all the sudo packages for trinity and tde. 
After that, it will work pretty much like Ubuntu/Kubuntu. 

Debian works better for me than any of the 'buntus ever did, but don't expect 
it to run just like Ubuntu or Kubuntu. It is just similar enough to seem 
familiar, and just different enough to make you want to pull out your hair. 

Bill