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Re: [trinity-users] Please use version numbers!

From: Kristopher John Gamrat <chaotickjg@...>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:26:15 -0500
On Saturday 18 February 2012 02:48:27 pm Lisi wrote:
> On Saturday 18 February 2012 18:38:00 Kristopher John Gamrat wrote:
> > On Saturday 18 February 2012 06:16:07 am Lisi wrote:
> > > But the OP actually said:
> > >
> > > <quote>
> > > Now, i have to cope with childish names. Even the download page for
> > > Ubuntu uses version numbers, so it�s not even possible for me to decide
> > > which is which.
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > And PLEASE, use version numbers in the future!
> > > </quote>
> >
> > Looking at the main page at, you see "Debian Lenny" and
> > "Debian Squeeze", not "Debian 5.0" and "Debian 6.0". This may be what the
> > OP was referring to. The only reason I know the difference is because I
> > have been using Debian for just under a year. If I hadn't done my research
> > on Debian beforehand, I'd have no inkling of an idea what "Squeeze" and
> > "Lenny" referred to. Since I'm not an Ubuntu user, I have not been keeping
> > track of their code names, so I could not tell you the difference between
> > "Karmic" and "Lucid" except that they are two different versions of Ubuntu,
> > but I do not know what those versions are.
> So the Trinity website, not the Ubuntu website, uses names not version 
> numbers?
> You could say that if you have the right version of Debian or Ubuntu you will 
> recognise the name.  If you have not got a version, and do not recognise the 
> name, you don't want that download anyway.

Even a newbie might not know the difference. Some newbies won't bother with the name, at least not at first. I know I didn't when I first used Debian (and I wasn't exactly a newbie when I did). All I knew was that I was using Debian 5.0, it took me a few weeks to start calling it "Lenny". I didn't care much for what some refer to as "childish nicknames", I only bothered to learn the name so I could communicate with other Debian users.

On Saturday 18 February 2012 02:59:17 pm Lisi wrote:
> On Saturday 18 February 2012 19:29:11 Andy wrote:
> > It can be very confusing. Ubuntu is a little better in this regard because,
> > I believe, the version names have been in alphabetical order. So "Lucid
> > L-whatever" is more recent than "Karmic K-whatever-it-was".
> Except for Warty Warthog!  That was one of the early ones.before they started 
> being in alphabetical order.
> I don't use Ubuntu myself, so do not keep track of Ubuntu names.  But since I 
> don't use it, I don't need to chose a version of Trinity for it.  If I used 
> it, I would know the name of the version I used.  (Or could easily look it up 
> on my system.) 
> I do use Debian, so I know the version names.  They don't all have numbers, so 
> have to be referred to by name.  None out of experimental, Sid and Wheezy has 
> a number.  By the time that Wheezy is released, we will all have been calling 
> it Wheezy for some time.  It is easier to continue doing so after release as 
> well, even though on release it will acquire a number, presumably 7.0.0.

I thought they did all have numbers? I don't know about the first few releases, but IIRC, Etch was 3.? (I forget the point number).

Kris Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster