On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2012/06/14 08:53 (GMT-0600) Jonesy composed: > >> It is curious that I've yet to see the problem >> reported _outside_ of the Trinity "family". > > Did you look? http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2012-06/msg00322.html Well.... I didn't look e v e r y w h e r e . I read Ubuntu on usenet and gmane, and linux 'general' on usenet. But, I'm glad (and sad) that others see the problem, too. Jonesy