On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Mike Bird <mgb-trinity@...> wrote:
> Gnu/Linux probably does need a new init, and something along the
> lines of the core 1% of systemd with optional cgroups support would
> be a good approach.

Just like X, sysvinit was proclaimed in need of replacement many years
ago, for many reasons.

The problem is that the functionality of these packages has been built
over time to answer particular problems. Any new system is going to
have to go through exactly the same process, the slow evolution of
"Gee, I didn't think anyone used it for that."

Sysvinit allowed for parallel boot without changing "everything". And
it's especially good at being able to change pretty much any single
component without a reboot.

This kind of flexibility will, I believe, turn out to be more
important than the systemd developers believe it to be.

I will echo that, being just a user, I am happy to use whatever works.

> I thank Tim and Sl�vek and others for making TDE optionally work
> with systemd without depending upon systemd - unlike Debian where
> systemd proponents are frantically changing packages to unnecessarily
> require systemd.

Indeed. Thank you.

Curt-

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