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Month: November 2014

Re: [trinity-users] Email server maintenance

From: Felix Miata <mrmazda@...>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 18:00:57 -0500
Lisi Reisz composed on 2014-11-12 17:03 (UTC-0500):

>> > On 11/08/2014 04:50 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

>> > >

> I have poor sight, and I find the TDE archives *significantly* better than 
> most, which I fond unusable.  In fact, I can't see a problem.  They are 
> great.  Beautifully clear and highly legible when I enlarge (ctrl-+) which I 
> expect to do anyway.  Most archives are awful and I can hardly read them.  I 
> have attached a screenshot of what I see.

What you see, and provided in your attached binary, tells us little, in
contrast to the screenshot URL I provided. In mine, the viewer can see what
the browser's default size is, and what the whole array of DE sizes are, so
that the fonts in the web page can be see in the context of both the
defaults, and the whole rest of the desktop. It could be reproduced by anyone
who wished to, because context is adequate. The only thing it lacks is actual
zoom level applied, which Firefox doesn't offer. The zoom level in fact is
none (100% of the size dictated by page CSS), so the archive page is in fact
displaying the 10px size dictated by the page's CSS.

Your page provides only one context: the UI text in your browser. That frame
of reference indicates you've applied several zoom levels to the page.
Firefox by default remembers zoom levels by domain, so once you've been there
and applied zoom, you shouldn't need to do it again until the site is
restyled to use different sizes. The way the shot cuts off the top of the
page, if negects to show the vast difference in font size between the
"beautifully clear and highly legible" body fonts and the zoomed to gigantic
page title fonts. If you revisit the page in a new browser with a new
profile, or the same browser with a new profile, or reset the zoom level to
none (Ctrl-0), you'll find the resulting fonts not so "beautifully clear and
highly legible", probably to a size smaller than your tiny Firefox UI menu fonts.

Browser zoom is a *defense* mechanism. Defenses are only needed in the
context of offensive behavior. In the instant case, the offensive behavior is
web page font sizing that *completely* disregards the optimum size
pre-defined via the visitors' browser default size settings. It may be
acceptable to people who only use one computer and one DE to have to ever
apply zoom on any given page or domain, but they shouldn't have to. Those who
use a lot of DEs and a lot of browsers won't have the luxury of having been
to any every frequented page before and having zoom level remembered. There's
no good reason for anyone to have had to apply zoom ever in the first place.
Web pages don't need to be rude, as their creators do have tools that enable
them to embrace user defaults to get the results they want. The instant case
if it remains as it is will remain particularly perplexing, as the TDE main
site CSS is one of the very unfortunately few places on web where rude
styling is not in place, in stark contrast its mailing list archive.
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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