Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-03-30 09:53 (UTC+0100): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-03-29 22:11 (UTC+0100): >> > a) This time, I shall uninstall LXDE as soon as I have TDE up and >> > running. Ditto I shall uninstall lightdm as soon as I have tdm. I have >> > to have a configurable terminal emulator to install TDE, or I would >> > install without a DE and put just TDE on in the first place. >> What stops you from not installing LXDE in the first place? > <quote from above> > I have to have a configurable terminal emulator to install TDE, or I would > install without a DE and put just TDE on in the first place. > </quote> That fact was clear, yet deficient. What exactly makes you need a configurable terminal emulator? >> Are you unable >> to function on tty[1-6] in 80x25 mode (with no DE installed)? > On this television, I can't really see well enough to trouble shoot without a > DE until I have managed to edit the console display, let alone edit my > sources list and install anything. So no, I am not able to function on > tty[1-6] with no DE installed. If you can't see well enough due to lack of adequate size, is it that you don't know how to acquire adequate size? Text on a TV screen be made seriouslly big. >> All my >> installs are HTTP minimal from netboot[1], after which I apt-get update and >> apt-get install mc', create /etc/apt/99local containing >> APT::Install-Recommends "0"; >> APT::Install-Suggests "0";, >> adjust sources if necessary or desired, then apt-get or aptitude install >> whatever DM/DE I want or need. The installation result is lean, upgrades >> quicker, and doesn't have a menu loaded with apps I've never used or >> wanted. >> [1] included on installation cmdline: tasks="standard" vga=791 >> video=1024x768@60 > The required resolution depends surely on the monitor one is using? Absolutely. The question is what's required for you, bigger text, bigger screen, bigger both? 1024x768 is a low res mode supported on some pretty big screens. Text 14pt & up is readily doable. Lower resolution still means bigger yet text. 80x25 on a TV screen can produce seriously large text. > If I could see well enough to do so on the machine in question, attached to my > TV, I would do so. But I can't. So I do an install with LXDE (I can see the > installer if I go close to the TV), configure the terminal emulator, and > install TDE. Which I can configure to make it visible (all but the Google > Chrome address bar), which is why I like it. Which is why I use it in the > first place. What is it that the TE does that helps? > My present trouble shooting is being made much harder by the fact that the > console display seems to have gone back to default as a result of the update, > so I can't see it anything like properly, even very close to. > Well, Testing + PEBKAC = disaster. :-( What size does text need to be for you to be able to work with it? 12pt? 16pt? 24pt? larger yet? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/