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Re: [trinity-users] TDE installed, LXDE not installed. LXDE launches. TDE will not launch. ?????

From: Felix Miata <mrmazda@...>
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 05:27:41 -0400
Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-03-30 09:53 (UTC+0100):

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-03-29 22:11 (UTC+0100):

>> > a)  This time, I shall uninstall LXDE as soon as I have TDE up and
>> > running. Ditto I shall uninstall lightdm as soon as I have tdm.  I have
>> > to have a configurable terminal emulator to install TDE, or I would
>> > install without a DE and put just TDE on in the first place.

>> What stops you from not installing LXDE in the first place?

> <quote from above>
>  I have to have a configurable terminal emulator to install TDE, or I would
>  install without a DE and put just TDE on in the first place.
> </quote>

That fact was clear, yet deficient. What exactly makes you need a
configurable terminal emulator?

>> Are you unable 
>> to function on tty[1-6] in 80x25 mode (with no DE installed)?

> On this television, I can't really see well enough to trouble shoot without a 
> DE until I have managed to edit the console display, let alone edit my 
> sources list and install anything.  So no, I am not able to function on 
> tty[1-6] with no DE installed.

If you can't see well enough due to lack of adequate size, is it that you
don't know how to acquire adequate size? Text on a TV screen be made
seriouslly big.

>> All my 
>> installs are HTTP minimal from netboot[1], after which I apt-get update and
>> apt-get install mc', create /etc/apt/99local containing

>> 	APT::Install-Recommends "0";
>> 	APT::Install-Suggests "0";,

>> adjust sources if necessary or desired, then apt-get or aptitude install
>> whatever DM/DE I want or need. The installation result is lean, upgrades
>> quicker, and doesn't have a menu loaded with apps I've never used or
>> wanted.

>> [1] included on installation cmdline: tasks="standard" vga=791
>> video=1024x768@60

> The required resolution depends surely on the monitor one is using?

Absolutely. The question is what's required for you, bigger text, bigger
screen, bigger both? 1024x768 is a low res mode supported on some pretty big
screens. Text 14pt & up is readily doable. Lower resolution still means
bigger yet text. 80x25 on a TV screen can produce seriously large text.

> If I could see well enough to do so on the machine in question, attached to my 
> TV, I would do so.  But I can't.  So I do an install with LXDE (I can see the 
> installer if I go close to the TV), configure the terminal emulator, and 
> install TDE.  Which I can configure to make it visible (all but the Google 
> Chrome address bar), which is why I like it.  Which is why I use it in the 
> first place.

What is it that the TE does that helps?

> My present trouble shooting is being made much harder by the fact that the 
> console display seems to have gone back to default as a result of the update, 
> so I can't see it anything like properly, even very close to.

> Well, Testing + PEBKAC = disaster. :-(

What size does text need to be for you to be able to work with it? 12pt?
16pt? 24pt? larger yet?
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