On Saturday 17 March 2018 23:58:25 Felix Miata wrote: > William Morder composed on 2018-03-18 02:19 (UTC-0700): > > I did give the list a look, and it is impressive; however, it isn't > > GNU/Linux (or at least, the gnu.org site doesn't approve of Knoppix). > > > > http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html > > 1-None of the top ten Linux distros from Distrowatch are there either - no > Mint, no Fedora, no Ubuntu, no openSUSE, no Manjaro, etc. Trinity certainly > isn't mentioned anywhere on that page. Why is being on that very limited > list (of distros I never even heard of) important to you? I don't want to use proprietary or non-free software. Trinity is included in a number of GNU/Linux distros, including exegnulinux, GnuSense, some Devuan, etc. TDE, so far as I know, is free/libre by design. Trinity isn't in that list because it is not an operating system, but only a desktop environment. Anyway, I told you that I wasn't a purist; I use Trinity because it works better for me. > > 2-I was recommending Knoppix as a tool suitable for anyone wishing to run > gparted to repartition an existing installation, as well as other purposes > dictating a live rather than installed OS. Though it can be installed, > that's not how I use it. It might be useful to me for that reason, because it has other tools. I only need a live disc for repartitioning at this particular time, not for long term. However, I won't knock it without having tried the most recent version, because I might find those tools useful at some point. > > 3-Knoppix not being on that list could be because of special software that > enables its use by blind persons. It is nevertheless a free download, just > like Debian, AntiX, Neon and many many more than the 12 that are on that > list. Free as in freedom, not free as in free beer. It is not just the cost, but also what I am legally allowed to do with my software. Software that is non-free or proprietary specifically forbids modifying the code, or using it in a manner other than that for which it was intended (i.e., "hacking" in the original sense of the word, as opposed to "cracking", which is doing illegal stuff like breaking into networks or other people's computers). I only want to be able to make my system do whatever I want, and to modify software if I so choose. > > 4-Being Debian based, and installable, Trinity should be usable on a HD > installation of it without special effort. No special effort. I just want what I want. Bill