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Month: March 2018

Re: [trinity-users] upgrade Messup debian7 to debian9

From: William Morder <doctor_contendo@...>
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 14:50:29 -0700

On Sunday 18 March 2018 08:10:02 Frank Lienhard wrote:
> On 03/18/2018 04:01 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 18. M�rz 2018 schrieb Frank Lienhard:
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>> As I point out in my "quick & dirty" method, I avoid these problems by
> >>> saving the packages to an external drive, then use dpkg to install them
> >>> when necessary.
> >>
> >> In the beginning of KDE4 I thought I might use trinity myself, but went
> >> more "spartan" some time ago by using fluxbox. And since I learned, that
> >> this "special" user tends to forget things anyway, I use anydesk now to
> >> solve problems, which are the same anyway and are NOT depending on which
> >> DE is used, so maybe I just use software from the official repros to
> >> avoid trouble like this.
> >
> > If you stay with debian be prepared for systemd shooting it's foot in
> > creative ways ...
> Yeah, name my fears. Thanks!
> Seriously: I won't change a lot on that system anyway, so nevermind.
> And surely I won't install my first non-debian system NOT on a computer,
> which is not in my direct reach...
> As a second step I'll watch out for devuan. And I'm all ears for better
> choices, but until now I haven't found a better support forum in my
> native tongue (german) other than debian. (Yeah, I know. But sometimes
> it is easier to have this problems discussed in your navite language)
I would take the time to learn Debian first, as there is much more support. 
But I am very impressed by Devuan. The devs and admins seem to know what they 
are doing, and only lack resources and time. Other forks look rather 
amateurish by comparison, but Devuan looks almost like an exact clone of all 
the best about Debian (namely, stability, and control for the user), and gets 
rid of the questionable stuff like systemd and dbus. 

Still, I tried Devuan a couple times already, and had issues, and am preparing 
to give it another go. If I were attempting to do this in another language, I 
would have problems. (And German would come about #12 on my list.) 

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