On Tuesday 21 August 2018 10:56:56 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2018-08-21 09:08 (UTC-0400): > >> > Now that's a gotcha I did not know. How did it come that this was > >> > thought of beeing a good idea? > >> > >> Yep. Exactly my thought when i spent 3-hours with a server refusing > >> to boot after migration to a new hdd (i used a stretch flash to > >> copy). Who the fuck toughs it was a good idea?!! Why not call it > >> ext5 or ext4a or whatever?!! > > > > +100 > > > > Now the question of the day is how the hell do we fix it? > > As I implied 24 hours ago in this thread, it doesn't need fixing. > Jessie came in between Wheezy and Stretch, a long time (two years?). > There are multiple workarounds for those who skipped over Jessie: > > 1-Format the installation target using Wheezy or Jessie or old Knoppix > or old anything in advance of starting the installer. Formatting is an > /optional/ part of the installation process (as is partitioning). > I did try to do that, it showed me the partitions I had setup in gparted, but would not skip the selection and format steps. > 2-As Dan wrote, use EXT3 instead of EXT4 (EXT3 can be converted to > EXT4 later if desired. AFAIK, the incompatible options will not > automatically be added on conversion.) > > 3-Format with the Stretch installer, but specify to omit the > incompatible EXT4 options. I don't which it/they are, but my guess is > the only one that is needed is "-O '^64bit'". All my Wheezys were > eliminated around the time its support termination was announced, so > no practical way here to test. > > 4-Use XFS instead of EXT4. Thats been contemplated, but not being able to skip the partition and formatting stage, I don't know how. If there is a way, plz advise. But this morning, the first install wouldn't boot at, as if there was no grub on the drive, but I watched it install it. All I could see was no drive activity, and a blinking underline cursor in row/column 1. Several resets and a choose /sdb to boot from each time. So I started another install, non-graphical, which sorta worked below. 2nd try today I only told it a separate /home, and that seemed to work, but despite not choosing that in the initial menu, the speech-dispatcher drove me crazy. No volume control installed, and the keyboard echo to the terminal became so slow it screwed up my typing when I had become root and issued a killall to shut it up, as if it was waiting for the speech-dispatcher to finish. A gracefull stop as an option to the script in /etc/init.d was ignored, as root or as me. Hell of a way to run a train. I added the wiki's entries in sources.list.d/trinity.list, but then the keyserver refused my connection about 15 times so now I'm back on wheezy since I can't replace the xfce default. So whats with keyserver.quickbuild.io this morning, I can ping it from stretch just fine. And the missus wants the papers before the storm arrives, so I'll do that next. She's a good girl but a Crossword addict. > 5-Use a newer and/or custom kernel in Wheezy. > http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/debian/debian/pool/main/l/ -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>