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Month: August 2018

Re: [trinity-users] stretch problems

From: Gene Heskett <gheskett@...>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 12:06:39 -0400
On Tuesday 21 August 2018 10:56:56 Felix Miata wrote:

> Gene Heskett composed on 2018-08-21 09:08 (UTC-0400):
> >> > Now that's a gotcha I did not know. How did it come that this was
> >> > thought of beeing a good idea?
> >>
> >> Yep. Exactly my thought when i spent 3-hours with a server refusing
> >> to boot after migration to a new hdd (i used a stretch flash to
> >> copy). Who the fuck toughs it was a good idea?!! Why not call it
> >> ext5 or ext4a or whatever?!!
> >
> > +100
> >
> > Now the question of the day is how the hell do we fix it?
> As I implied 24 hours ago in this thread, it doesn't need fixing.
> Jessie came in between Wheezy and Stretch, a long time (two years?).
> There are multiple workarounds for those who skipped over Jessie:
> 1-Format the installation target using Wheezy or Jessie or old Knoppix
> or old anything in advance of starting the installer. Formatting is an
> /optional/ part of the installation process (as is partitioning).
I did try to do that, it showed me the partitions I had setup in gparted, 
but would not skip the selection and format steps.

> 2-As Dan wrote, use EXT3 instead of EXT4 (EXT3 can be converted to
> EXT4 later if desired. AFAIK, the incompatible options will not
> automatically be added on conversion.)
> 3-Format with the Stretch installer, but specify to omit the
> incompatible EXT4 options. I don't which it/they are, but my guess is
> the only one that is needed is "-O '^64bit'". All my Wheezys were
> eliminated around the time its support termination was announced, so
> no practical way here to test.
> 4-Use XFS instead of EXT4.

Thats been contemplated, but not being able to skip the partition and 
formatting stage, I don't know how.

If there is a way, plz advise.

But this morning, the first install wouldn't boot at, as if there was no 
grub on the drive, but I watched it install it. All I could see was no 
drive activity, and a blinking underline cursor in row/column 1. Several 
resets and a choose /sdb to boot from each time. So I started another 
install, non-graphical, which sorta worked below.

2nd try today I only told it a separate /home, and that seemed to work, 
but despite not choosing that in the initial menu, the speech-dispatcher 
drove me crazy. No volume control installed, and the keyboard echo to 
the terminal became so slow it screwed up my typing when I had become 
root and issued a killall to shut it up, as if it was waiting for the 
speech-dispatcher to finish. A gracefull stop as an option to the script 
in /etc/init.d was ignored, as root or as me.

Hell of a way to run a train.

I added the wiki's entries in sources.list.d/trinity.list, but then the 
keyserver refused my connection about 15 times so now I'm back on wheezy 
since I can't replace the xfce default.

So whats with this morning, I can ping it from 
stretch just fine. And the missus wants the papers before the storm 
arrives, so I'll do that next. She's a good girl but a Crossword addict.

> 5-Use a newer and/or custom kernel in Wheezy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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