On 2018-10-05 01:12:29 William Morder wrote:
> On Thursday 04 October 2018 21:35:58 J Leslie Turriff wrote:
> > On 2018-10-03 09:48:21 William Morder wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 03 October 2018 06:46:05 Baron wrote:
> > > > Hi John,
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday 03 October 2018 14:38:14 Pisini, John wrote:
> > > > > I'm on gmail as well. I have tried telling it they aren't spam and
> > > > > that works for a few messages and then drops them back to spam
> > > > > again.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 9:35 AM Baron <baron@...> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there something going on with Google (Gmail) and the list mail
> > > > > > ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There isn't any list mail shown when I go into my mail account.
> > > > > > But I can see my post and John Pisini's reply on line.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks John, but I've not had anything to go into the spam or
> > > > > > waste bin folders.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Best Regards:
> > > > > >             Baron
> > > >
> > > > This is crazy !  I've not had a post from the list since the
> > > > 16/09/18, until I posted that I wasn't getting any.  I went and
> > > > checked my acc and there were no posts from the lists at all, not
> > > > even in the spam folder.  Then I make a post and hey presto, I'm
> > > > getting my own mail and reply's back.
> > > >
> > > > Weird !
> > > >
> > > > Thanks John.  At least it now seems to be working.
> > >
> > > Google's algorithms know better than you what email you ought to be
> > > reading.
> > >
> > > For what it's worth, I've been getting warnings from the Trinity
> > > mailing list that messages sent to my accounts are bouncing. I used to
> > > have Gmail, but then I got wise and switched to Zoho mail, and things
> > > got better ... for a while. Then I started getting the same messages.
> > >
> > > I still get *most* of my messages. However, since I use Kmail on my
> > > local machine, I sometimes don't know about missed messages unless they
> > > get quoted by somebody else, or once in a blue moon when I actually log
> > > in to my webmail accounts. Messages from Michele Calgaro always get
> > > marked as spam; also, anything from the mysterious Liddell. Also I
> > > think one or two others sometimes.
> > >
> > > Since I seem to get most messages at least in quotation, and can find
> > > the rest in my webmail accounts, I don't care enough to investigate;
> > > but it would be nice to know the causes of these issues.
> > >
> > > Bill
> >
> > 	Because I use kMail, I always turn off the spam filtering in my mail
> > provider's configuration and write my own local filters.
> >
> > Leslie
>
> Same here, except that it doesn't work. I turn off all spam filtering in my
> webmail accounts; and since I set Kmail to receive text-only (with the
> option to click and view html), it doesn't much matter if I get spam,
> because I can just delete it. (And when I enough spam to be bothered, I
> have the option of using kshowmail, which allows me to preview emails and
> delete them from the server without ever downloading them. It works nicely
> in tandem with Kmail, but since dropping my old Earthlink account, I
> haven't needed to use it.)
>
> The thing is, I switched from Earthlink about 18 months ago, I changed
> first to Gmail, and now use Zoho as my primary account; but now I don't
> really get any spam to be filtered (except of course from Felix's Earthlink
> account!). There is no reason for either Gmail or Zoho to block anything,
> because I get virtually no spam, so I don't understand why, despite all my
> best efforts, certain emails keep getting blocked by default. I can only
> guess that their email addresses have turned up on some "master spam list"
> out there that is used by various providers. I trust that they have been
> blocked by mistake, and are not really spammers, but it's annoying.
>
> Anyway, one keeps moving forward. I check my webmail occasionally, and
> check the online record of the mailing list on Trinity's pages, and (unless
> I have some sudden flash of insight) will leave such issues for others to
> sort out.
>
> Bill

	Hmm... well, if you actually have SpamAssassin and/or BogoFilter running, 
it's possible that the databases they've built up are causing false 
positives?  Perhaps there's a way to flush their content and start them 
fresh?

Leslie