> On 2018-10-05 01:12:29 William Morder wrote: > > On Thursday 04 October 2018 21:35:58 J Leslie Turriff wrote: > > > On 2018-10-03 09:48:21 William Morder wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 03 October 2018 06:46:05 Baron wrote: > > > > > Hi John, > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 03 October 2018 14:38:14 Pisini, John wrote: > > > > > > I'm on gmail as well. I have tried telling it they aren't spam and > > > > > > that works for a few messages and then drops them back to spam > > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 9:35 AM Baron <baron@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there something going on with Google (Gmail) and the list mail > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There isn't any list mail shown when I go into my mail account. > > > > > > > But I can see my post and John Pisini's reply on line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks John, but I've not had anything to go into the spam or > > > > > > > waste bin folders. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Best Regards: > > > > > > > Baron > > > > > > > > > > This is crazy ! I've not had a post from the list since the > > > > > 16/09/18, until I posted that I wasn't getting any. I went and > > > > > checked my acc and there were no posts from the lists at all, not > > > > > even in the spam folder. Then I make a post and hey presto, I'm > > > > > getting my own mail and reply's back. > > > > > > > > > > Weird ! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks John. At least it now seems to be working. > > > > > > > > Google's algorithms know better than you what email you ought to be > > > > reading. > > > > > > > > For what it's worth, I've been getting warnings from the Trinity > > > > mailing list that messages sent to my accounts are bouncing. I used to > > > > have Gmail, but then I got wise and switched to Zoho mail, and things > > > > got better ... for a while. Then I started getting the same messages. > > > > > > > > I still get *most* of my messages. However, since I use Kmail on my > > > > local machine, I sometimes don't know about missed messages unless they > > > > get quoted by somebody else, or once in a blue moon when I actually log > > > > in to my webmail accounts. Messages from Michele Calgaro always get > > > > marked as spam; also, anything from the mysterious Liddell. Also I > > > > think one or two others sometimes. > > > > > > > > Since I seem to get most messages at least in quotation, and can find > > > > the rest in my webmail accounts, I don't care enough to investigate; > > > > but it would be nice to know the causes of these issues. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > Because I use kMail, I always turn off the spam filtering in my mail > > > provider's configuration and write my own local filters. > > > > > > Leslie > > > > Same here, except that it doesn't work. I turn off all spam filtering in my > > webmail accounts; and since I set Kmail to receive text-only (with the > > option to click and view html), it doesn't much matter if I get spam, > > because I can just delete it. (And when I enough spam to be bothered, I > > have the option of using kshowmail, which allows me to preview emails and > > delete them from the server without ever downloading them. It works nicely > > in tandem with Kmail, but since dropping my old Earthlink account, I > > haven't needed to use it.) > > > > The thing is, I switched from Earthlink about 18 months ago, I changed > > first to Gmail, and now use Zoho as my primary account; but now I don't > > really get any spam to be filtered (except of course from Felix's Earthlink > > account!). There is no reason for either Gmail or Zoho to block anything, > > because I get virtually no spam, so I don't understand why, despite all my > > best efforts, certain emails keep getting blocked by default. I can only > > guess that their email addresses have turned up on some "master spam list" > > out there that is used by various providers. I trust that they have been > > blocked by mistake, and are not really spammers, but it's annoying. > > > > Anyway, one keeps moving forward. I check my webmail occasionally, and > > check the online record of the mailing list on Trinity's pages, and (unless > > I have some sudden flash of insight) will leave such issues for others to > > sort out. > > > > Bill > > Hmm... well, if you actually have SpamAssassin and/or BogoFilter running, > it's possible that the databases they've built up are causing false > positives? Perhaps there's a way to flush their content and start them > fresh? > > Leslie > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- I have resolved you and anyone on the list, from going to spam by shutting off gmail filtering and handling it locally. I don't think it has to do with SpamAssassin or any local filtering. Kate