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Re: [trinity-users] Q: Alternative list background - kcsrc (corrected)

From: "William Morder via trinity-users" <trinity-users@...>
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 08:02:05 -0700

On Monday 30 September 2019 01:11:18 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2019 Mon, 30 Sep 00:54:33 -0700
>
>  William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
> > On Sunday 29 September 2019 23:56:42 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > Anno domini 2019 Sun, 29 Sep 14:03:54 -0700
> > >
> > >  William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
> > > > On Sunday 29 September 2019 09:35:14 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > > Hi William!
> > > > >
> > > > > Anno domini 2019 Sun, 29 Sep 08:01:25 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >  William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
> > > > > > On Sunday 29 September 2019 05:35:42 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have konqueror set to a dark background with bright font.
> > > > > > > When I use icon view, things look great. But any list view uses
> > > > > > > the color from "alternative list background" that is set in
> > > > > > > tcontrol, which in my case is light to match the light
> > > > > > > background of all other windows with dark font. This leads to
> > > > > > > light/dark lines in konqueror (which I do not want, I want dark
> > > > > > > background and maybe a slightly lighter alaternating
> > > > > > > background). When I set alternative background to bdark, then
> > > > > > > konqueror looks fine but e.g. ark has zebra stripes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anybody know of a way to make konqueror not use the
> > > > > > > alternative list background?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nik
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, Nik!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Like yourself (I imagine), I am getting to that age where my old
> > > > > > eyes don't like looking at computer screens with light
> > > > > > backgrounds and dark fonts; I get watery eyes and a headache
> > > > > > after an hour or so.
> > > > >
> > > > > My problem, too :(
> > > > >
> > > > > > In Konqueror, you need to check both <Settings> and
> > > > > > <View/Configure Background>; but it seems like you have already
> > > > > > done that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you need to next is found in <TCC/Appearance &
> > > > > > Themes/Colors/Alternate Background in Lists>. (I have attached
> > > > > > two screenshots, one of Konqueror, one of TCC, which ought to be
> > > > > > self-explanatory.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For this last component, you may wish to search for a config
> > > > > > file, with extension .kcsrc (in the old KDE3). The TDE equivalent
> > > > > > for this file has the extension .kksrc, but otherwise they just
> > > > > > reuse the same old KDE3 config.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Small problem here: I forget where it's kept in Trinity. When I
> > > > > > install my system, I now just run a command that copies over all
> > > > > > my settings, the same settings that I've been using since 2006 or
> > > > > > so, in KDE3 and then TDE. (I am doing a search, using Konqueror,
> > > > > > but it's slow.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ** Two possible locations:
> > > > > > /home/<USERNAME>/.kde/share/apps/kcmkeys
> > > > > > -or-
> > > > > > /opt/trinity/share/apps/kcmkeys
> > > > > > (However, my desktop seems to obey the config file that resides
> > > > > > in the first location. Somebody else can correct me, if this is
> > > > > > wrong.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you can find this config file and save backups of your
> > > > > > original and your customized settings, you'll save some
> > > > > > headaches, because it's easier than trying to recreate your
> > > > > > preferred appearance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > good luck
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah... there did my colorschemes go ...:
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/tdedisplay/color-schemes/NIK-hell.kcsrc
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/NIK DUNKEL.kcsrc
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/NIK GANZ DUNKEL.kcsrc
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/NIK DUNKEL 2.kcsrc
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/thememgr.kcsrc
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/NIK.kcsrc
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/NIK 2012-11-11.kcsrc
> > > > >
> > > > > Moved them over from .trinity/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/ to
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/tdedisplay/color-schemes/ , now I'm back in the
> > > > > game, thank you :) I'm working my way through kmail now, looks like
> > > > > it has some settings I have totally forgotten ... (oh my, as time
> > > > > goes by ...)
> > > > >
> > > > > Which makes me wonder, which of these folders in
> > > > > .trinity/share/apps/ are actually in use? Lots of them are from
> > > > > 2011 ... hm ...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, would you mind sharing your colorscheme?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Nik
> > > >
> > > > Sure, glad to share. Do you mean just the .kksrc config file, or the
> > > > whole shebang?
> > > >
> > > > I've been trying to figure out how to make my color scheme available
> > > > to others, instead of the cookie-cutter default choices, but unless
> > > > somebody draws me a map, I doubt that will happen. With a few broad
> > > > hints, though, I could probably create a theme for TDE & perhaps
> > > > others, like the newer KDEs, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > >
> > > The Color scheme: you need to save it in TC, and it will be stored in
> > > ~/.trinity/share/apps/tdedisplay/color-schemes/HOW_YOU_NAMED_IT.kcsrc
> > >
> > > If you save the whole theme, then it will appear in
> > > ~/.trinity/share/apps/kthememanager/themes/HOW_YOU_NAMED_IT.kth -
> > > basicly a tar.gz with different ending. There's also a folder
> > > ~/.trinity/share/apps/kthememanager/themes/HOW_YOU_NAMED_IT with the
> > > unpacked contents of the theme file. But it looks like the kmail color
> > > config is not part of the theme, nor is the konqueror background image.
> > >
> > > Would be a nice thing to place themes on the trinity webpage or
> > > somewhere in the wiki.
> > >
> > > Nik
> >
> > I was waiting for your response, because I had another detail to add; but
> > you seem to have found it on your own. The color scheme config file also
> > resides in this location:
> > ~/.trinity/share/apps/tdedisplay/color-schemes/HOW_YOU_NAMED_IT.kcsrc
> >
> > So now I am sending two versions of my most recent color scheme config,
> > in .kcsrc (which is KDE3) and .kksrc (TDE) config files; they ought to be
> > almost the same, except that the TDE version has been subtly tweaked and
> > retweaked. Otherwise only the extension is changed.
> >
> > If you want to change the color of the lower panel to match, as well,
> > then you need to use something like my source for background, which is an
> > image file of a Zen ink drawing, with lots of space and few details. I'm
> > glad to share that, too, though I have lost the source. (See attachments
> > for my color scheme config files.)
> >
> > Regarding the whole theme, I'll look into it. I've never created a theme
> > before, other than how all the various config files in my system make it
> > look; but I would like to be able to use it myself in the future on other
> > machines, without having to go through so many steps. A tar.gz file, you
> > say? I'll study on how to create a theme.
> >
> > Bill
>
> Thank you! Looks like the *.kksrc contains the keybindings.
>
> Nik

Oh my! It's a good thing one of us actually reads these files. Somehow I got 
the mistaken notion that they were related. Duh. I don't know how that 
happened; I promise that I did read it, once upon a time (just like Moby Dick 
& Gravity's Rainbow), but now I doubt that I can prove it to anybody. 

Well, anyway, the other is what I'm using now, more or less, though I might 
have adjusted this or that slightly. I'll look round for other versions. 

Bill


P.S. I looked at those attachments, and they all seem to be wrong, so I've 
attached here two versions of my config file for current color scheme. Sorry 
about that. (They are dated from 2013 and 2016, last they were updated and 
saved.) I may also have yet more recent versions, but these ought to be 
pretty good. 


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