On 2020-09-01 17:02:13 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 September 2020 14:49:20 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 01 September 2020 14:26:16 ajh-valmer wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I have aslo a Gmail account
> > > >
> > > > My Gmail account password works on the webmail site,
> > > >
> > > > But not with Kmail (TDE) (password not recognised).
> > > >
> > > > Everything is allright : mail, pop.gmail.com, port (995), password...
> > > >
> > > > Why ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Andr=C3=A9 Valmer
> > >
> > > I receive gmail using pop.gmail.com, port 995, etc. I do not send
> > > through=20 gmail, although I have it configured for smtp port 587. I
> > > usually send=20 through my zoho.com account, as I have found that they
> > > are a lot less hassl= e=20
> > > than messing round with Google crap. However, we cannot escape
> > > Google=20 entirely, and I still use it to receive certain emails,
> > > mostly for business= =2E=20
> > >
> > > Did you try "check what the server supports" in the configuration
> > > settings?= I=20
> > > notice that Gmail doesn't like Kmail using encryption. SSL (no TLS),
> > > but=20 clear text for authentication?!?!=20
> > >
> > > That bothers me, although at least I can use Gmail to receive, which is
> > > bet= ter=20
> > > than not being able to use it at all.=20
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I've had no problems using imap and pop3 gmail with kmail.
> > I just  figured out their nonesense.
> >
> > Here are my settings, hopefully it will help
> >
> > Incoming:
> > Host = pop.gmai.com
> > Port = 995
> > Encryption = SSL
> > Auth Meth = clear text
> >
> > Outgoing:
> > Host = smtp.gmail.com
> > Port = 465
> > Fill in Server requires authentication
> > Encryption = SSL
> > Auth Meth = plain
> >
> >
> > Kate
>
> My IP address and mac address are always changing, sometimes within a
> single session (when my networkmanager is working as I want); and when I
> first built a Debian > Devuan machine (which was a process of migration),
> Gmail would send me warnings all the time, or block me from using it.
>
> Also, they don't like when you access Gmail from different locations, or
> using different devices; so when I went to the library, and used Gmail
> there, then came home, I would get blocked at my home address. When my IP
> address changed (because I use a big local network), I would get blocked
> for that. When I used Kmail to access Gmail, then used Gmail through a web
> browser, I would get blocked for that. They also don't like when you use
> different devices (desktop computer, laptop, tablet, smartphone, public
> computer, etc.); so when I checked Gmail from these different points of
> origin, I would get blocked for that.
>
> And then, finally, once I set up Gmail as already described, I stopped
> getting warning notices, and no longer get blocked. However, neither do I
> check Gmail from different locations any more, but mostly just from my
> desktop at home.
>
> Bill
>
	You might like to take a look at mail.com, with whom I have had excellent
experience.
	IMO, gMail is so popular (not only as a service but as a Target as well), it
is now a low-quality provider of email service (sort of the way Windows has
become such a big hacking target).

Leslie