On Tuesday 01 September 2020 15:18:47 J Leslie Turriff wrote: > On 2020-09-01 17:02:13 William Morder via trinity-users wrote: > > On Tuesday 01 September 2020 14:49:20 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 01 September 2020 14:26:16 ajh-valmer wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I have aslo a Gmail account > > > > > > > > > > My Gmail account password works on the webmail site, > > > > > > > > > > But not with Kmail (TDE) (password not recognised). > > > > > > > > > > Everything is allright : mail, pop.gmail.com, port (995), > > > > > password... > > > > > > > > > > Why ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Andr=C3=A9 Valmer > > > > > > > > I receive gmail using pop.gmail.com, port 995, etc. I do not send > > > > through=20 gmail, although I have it configured for smtp port 587. I > > > > usually send=20 through my zoho.com account, as I have found that > > > > they are a lot less hassl= e=20 > > > > than messing round with Google crap. However, we cannot escape > > > > Google=20 entirely, and I still use it to receive certain emails, > > > > mostly for business= =2E=20 > > > > > > > > Did you try "check what the server supports" in the configuration > > > > settings?= I=20 > > > > notice that Gmail doesn't like Kmail using encryption. SSL (no TLS), > > > > but=20 clear text for authentication?!?!=20 > > > > > > > > That bothers me, although at least I can use Gmail to receive, which > > > > is bet= ter=20 > > > > than not being able to use it at all.=20 > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > I've had no problems using imap and pop3 gmail with kmail. > > > I just figured out their nonesense. > > > > > > Here are my settings, hopefully it will help > > > > > > Incoming: > > > Host = pop.gmai.com > > > Port = 995 > > > Encryption = SSL > > > Auth Meth = clear text > > > > > > Outgoing: > > > Host = smtp.gmail.com > > > Port = 465 > > > Fill in Server requires authentication > > > Encryption = SSL > > > Auth Meth = plain > > > > > > > > > Kate > > > > My IP address and mac address are always changing, sometimes within a > > single session (when my networkmanager is working as I want); and when I > > first built a Debian > Devuan machine (which was a process of migration), > > Gmail would send me warnings all the time, or block me from using it. > > > > Also, they don't like when you access Gmail from different locations, or > > using different devices; so when I went to the library, and used Gmail > > there, then came home, I would get blocked at my home address. When my IP > > address changed (because I use a big local network), I would get blocked > > for that. When I used Kmail to access Gmail, then used Gmail through a > > web browser, I would get blocked for that. They also don't like when you > > use different devices (desktop computer, laptop, tablet, smartphone, > > public computer, etc.); so when I checked Gmail from these different > > points of origin, I would get blocked for that. > > > > And then, finally, once I set up Gmail as already described, I stopped > > getting warning notices, and no longer get blocked. However, neither do I > > check Gmail from different locations any more, but mostly just from my > > desktop at home. > > > > Bill > > You might like to take a look at mail.com, with whom I have had excellent > experience. > IMO, gMail is so popular (not only as a service but as a Target as well), > it is now a low-quality provider of email service (sort of the way Windows > has become such a big hacking target). > > Leslie > So far, zoho.com works pretty well for me. There have been a few glitches, but their support staff always answer my emails within a few hours, and I managed to resolve issues. Now it's been maybe two years since I've had problems with them. On the other hand, it's always good to have more options, so I'll keep mail.com in mind, and maybe get another account or two, just for kicks. Bill