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Re: [trinity-users] how to get tdenetworkmanager - with no wicd ?

From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office@...>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 21:26:01 +0200
Anno domini 2020 Thu, 3 Sep 10:27:43 -0700
 William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
> 
> On Thursday 03 September 2020 10:01:53 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Anno domini 2020 Thu, 3 Sep 07:57:03 -0700
> >
> >  William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
> > > While I have Internet, of a sort, I still have a few glitches; for
> > > example, I cannot go offline, then go online again. Somehow, wicd either
> > > auto-connects to my wifi network; when instead, I want to enable wifi,
> > > then look at the available network choices, because my local network has
> > > several nodes or access points within the building where I live, and
> > > somehow it doesn't always choose the strongest or closest signal. I have
> > > an access point right outside my door, yet autoconnect seems to avoid it.
> > >
> > > But when I try to disconnect, sometimes wicd seems to hang on, and show
> > > me still connected, yet I can't download emails or go online for other
> > > stuff. When I run macchanger, it keeps showing me that my mac address
> > > changes; and I run knetstats-trinity (which is a nice simple gui tool)
> > > and it shows my wireless is connected then disconnected, shows activity
> > > then no activity; yet in reality, I can't go online. So my only recourse
> > > at this point is to reboot.
> > >
> > > When I tried to get tdenetworkmanager to run, I had those problems
> > > already discussed earlier. I managed to download the packages and
> > > dependencies to install network-manager-tde without systemd, so it all
> > > *seems* like it ought to work out right, but I always end up going back
> > > to wicd; which, again, is only sort of half-working at the moment, and I
> > > must keep rebooting.
> > >
> > > How would I go about pruning away the wicd stuff that I don't want, and
> > > keeping only the tdenetworkmanager and required dependencies, etc.? I've
> > > search apt-get, but I believe that I already have all the dependencies
> > > and recommends. I can't think what else I might have missed.
> > >
> > > Bill
> >
> > Just my experience: eiter use wicd (and uninstall network-manager) or use
> > networkmanager (and uninstall wicd).
> >
> 
> Yeah, that's where I think I am headed. I already spent most of the past two 
> years using wicd instead of tdenetworkmanager. I just keep hoping that I will 
> get a different answer, so I ask the fortune teller to give me another 
> reading, and then another ... 
> 
> I would be okay with using wicd instead; no problem. But now when I go 
> offline, wicd doesn't offer me "options" -- that is, it looks like it hangs 
> on, like it's still online, and I cannot get back online without rebooting. 
> 
> Maybe I should run wicd as root? I don't like to do that. Usually wicd doesn't 
> behave in this manner, which I why I'm bothered. 

the deamon part of wicd runs as root, your gui client communicates with that daemon. there's also a wicd-cli for pure hearted.

btw, what's in your /etc/netwok/interfaces? since beowulf/buster anything but "lo" will give trouble.


> 
> I am not in control of my network connection -- as proved by the fact that I 
> can't go online/offline or offline/online without rebooting. This is what is 
> driving me crazy. 
> 
> If anybody is annoyed by my complaints, and failure to resolve my own issues, 
> please be patient with me, and remember that I never had any problems with my 
> network itself for the past few years. I would bounce between 
> tdenetworkmanager and wicd, it's true, but my network connection was stable, 
> and I felt in control. I had other problems, yes, but this is different. 
> 
> Bill
> 
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