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[trinity-users] Re: systemd-homed - new thread

From: Felmon Davis <ml-migration-agent@...>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 18:08:23 +0200 (CEST)
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020, William Morder via tde-users wrote:

> Better not to give in to conspiracy-theory thinking here. I believe a simpler
> proportion is at work.
> The more money, property or power is involved, the greater the degree of
> corruption. Who was it that said it? Lord Acton? "Power corrupts. Absolute
> power corrupts absolutely."
> Corruption creeps in by small degrees. It starts with somebody offering
> front-row seats at some special, exclusive event, or just being given "free
> money" or other unearned bonuses and perks.
> In all this technophobic conspiracy thinking, there is a simpler principle at
> work. People who are in business want to know who are their customers. (It
> makes more sense in a small business, where we meet in person.) When we move
> into situations where the people in business never actually meet most of
> their customers, they must find other ways to get to "know" them. At first,
> I'm sure, they mean well, and only want to serve the needs and wants of
> people who buy or use their goods and services; but as the company and
> customer base grows, and as competition also increases, then comes the need
> for greater control.
> And now, we the users are not even really exactly "customers" or "clients",
> but just use what we get for free; and because it's free, of course, we are
> taught that we should not complain or make demands, but just be grateful.
> In the end, we, the customers, users, renters (whatever our situation) become
> the least important part; in fact, an obstacle to doing business. What the
> business person would prefer, really, is just to withdraw money directly from
> our accounts, without any interaction from ourselves. But this is only
> because doing business in person is becoming a rare occasion any more.
> Bill

there may be truth in some of this but it seems a bit like 
thread-drift - perhaps retraction of apfelstr�del must be considered; 
how does this relate to systemd-homed?

it seems systemd-homed brings precisely the benefit which Kate 
mentioned is lacking in our usual way of moving 'home'; she wrote:

"I don't understand why this is even needed?! I can already move home 
directories without a problem. Been doing it for years. I just make 
sure to use the same user on the same distro, same etc. Works 
perfectly. Or I save key settings (konq bookmarks, FF bms, etc) it's 
so easy after that to just retheme to spec."

I take it with systemd-homed one doesn't get trapped by shifting UIDs 
and such. they write (partial quotation),

"Linux assigns UIDs in the order usernames are registered on a 
machine. you may get UID 1000 if you are the first user on a laptop 
and you could get 1001 on another laptop if you are the second user to 
be registered there. This poses a problem if you move a home directory 
container from machine A where you're UID 1000 to machine B where you 
are 1001. systemd-homed solves this by doing a chown -R on the entire 
home directory if there is a conflict. [...]"

I once fell athwart of that! not to mention that 'home' gets encrypted.

why isn't this a net bonus?


Felmon Davis

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