On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:43:29 David Hare wrote: > Here the major irritations are metapackages and recommends when > installing. I spent a lot of time working out how to exclude (for me) > unwanted stuff: kdeaccessibility, kmail, kdesudo, sudo-trinity, > kgtk-qt3-trinity, kdegames, kdetoys, kdeadmin, kdenetwork, kpackage > ..... �Some are on the bug list and can affect the entire system. > > I certainly don't want networking nor system admin tasks dependent on any > DE > > For example, why are kdesudo-trinity and kpackage-trinity �"recommends" > of kaffeine-trinity? This is in the bug list. > > With the bloat (probably also numerous buggy packages) out, TDE is still > found here to be the most functional DE available. This is where ignorance is most definitely _not_ bliss. (Is it ever?) I lag a long way behind you in knowledge of the nitty gritty. So, there is my solution! Get my head down and become more competent! I'm all for avoiding buggy unwanted packages - but have no idea how to exclude them. Other than by installing things one by one, of course, but it doesn't seem to be feasible for the base system. Lisi